Islam: ‘The Religion of Peace’ Death Tally

The Religion of Peace website (found here) keeps a tally of the people killed by Muslims during Ramadan. The following is the totals as of today. But as they say, the totals might be a little behind, since it takes a bit of time to count up all the dead.

Ramadan Bombathon
2012 Scorecard
 

Day 20

In the name of
The Religion
of Peace

In the name of
Any Other
Religion

By
Angry
Racists

Terror Attacks

170

0

1

Dead Bodies

794

0

6

Not all attacks are immediately listed on TROP

Islam’s Latest Contributions to Peace
“Mohammed is God’s apostle.  Those who follow him are ruthless
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another”
  Quran 48:29

2012.08.08 (Baiji, Iraq) – Islamic State of Iraq members enter a home and exterminate a family of eight.
2012.08.08 (Okene, Nigeria) – A woman is among three people are gunned down by terrorists ‘chanting Islamic praises’.
2012.08.08 (Asadabad, Afghanistan) – Four people are slain by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2012.08.07 (Hamiat, Iraq) – Three children are pulled into pieces by bombs planted in two homes.
2012.08.07 (Homs, Syria) – Sunni militia attack a housing complex for religious minorities, killing sixteen.
2012.08.07 (Paghman, Afghanistan) – Hardline Islamists blow up a civilian minibus, sending nine souls to Allah.Picture of the Week

It just wouldn’t feel like Ramadan without a church massacre.
The Religion of Peace comes through again in Nigeria, where 19
Christians are machine-gunned in their pews by Sharia advocates.
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28 Responses to Islam: ‘The Religion of Peace’ Death Tally

  1. rosross says:

    Balance is always important. At this stage the mostly Christian US leads the way with 1.5million Iraqis killed in that illegal and immoral war of invasion and occupation; somewhere around another 500,000 killed in the illegal and immoral war of invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and in supporting the apartheid State of Israel in its war of occupation and colonisation of Palestine and then if you go back to the illegal and immoral wars the US and its mainly Christian allies waged against Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Laos etc., you probably have Christians responsible for close to 4 or 5million killed in the past 50 years. And if you want to add in the millions killed in the First and Second World Wars, waged by mainly Christian nations, you could say that Christianity has killed around 100 million people in the past 100 years. Those sorts of statistics put Islamic killings somewhat in the shade. And while Muslims may be responsible for killing women and children, the Christians are far ahead in those murder stakes with their use of cowardly drones, safely ‘fired’ from a bunker in the US desert, to incinerate and disintegrate innocent men, women and children civilians. And let’s not go into the deaths and deformities caused by the use of depleted uranium by the US military in Iraq.
    I think what is particularly unpleasant here is that while mouthing platitudes of christianity – ‘love thine enemy'; ‘forgive those who …. etc'; judge not lest ye also…. etc., it is the Christians of the most orthodox or fundamental persuasion who seek to stir up hatred of other religions.
    By the way, your list of Muslim atrocities is ‘excelled’ by the US military and its allies who are doing exactly the same things hundreds of times over and have been doing it for decades. By all means condemn atrocities but have the integrity and courage to condemn all of them and not just those of a religion you seek to demonise. You should be ashamed of yourself. This is beneath the dignity of anyone who claims to believe in Jesus Christ.
    In fact, if Jesus Christ had a grave he would not be turning in it he would be spinning at what is done in his name.

  2. humblesmith says:

    I do not want to sidetrack this blog into dealing with the UN and foreign policy, but I’ll just say that the facts of each of the cases you mention do not support your rhetoric.
    When we look at the hospitals around the world, how many are named for Christians? I have systematically searched, and found many hosptals named for the Baptists, Methodists, Episcopals, Catholics, St. Luke, St. John, and a myriad of others. I have never seen an “Atheist General Hospital” nor a “Pantheist General Hospital.” I have spoken to people who lived in Hindu countries whose religion specifically rejected helping people so their karma would not be messed up for the next life.
    Christians have and do commit atrocities, I readily admit that. The distinction is that when Christians do it, they are violating the teachings of their founder. When Muslims do it, they are following the teachings of their founder.

    • rosross says:

      And the point I was trying to make was that when it comes to killing, Christianity, in the past and now, far out-kills any other religion. More to the point, this sort of ‘hate-fest’ against Moslems does great harm and no good. For what it is worth Islam at core, no more teaches such acts of murder than does Christianity or any other religion. However, if one were to nitpick through Christianity you can find the same sorts of murderous instructions from God as you have found in Islam. Both Christianity and Islam, and all the major religions for that matter, reflect, sadly, the attitudes and beliefs of the times in which they were founded – somewhere between 600 and 2,000 years ago.
      And, having lived in India and studied Hinduism, your comment about people living in Hindu countries and saying that if they help people it ‘messes up their karma’ is, quite simply, ludicrous. Hinduism, like Christianity, Islam and Judaism teaches that one has a responsibility to help those in need.
      Your comment about hospitals is equally ludicrous. There is no Atheist or Pantheist hospital because neither of these movements are coherent enough to form a system and neither do they function as religious structures function.
      What you will find is that most hospitals in the world are not founded by religious communities but by the society in general and while they may not be atheist or pantheist, neither are they religious.
      I just find it so sad that someone purporting to ‘spread the word of Jesus’ should resort to such bigoted stereotypes of Muslims, creating, not love as Jesus would have wished, but hatred, vindictiveness, spite and quite simply, evil!

      • humblesmith says:

        I challenge your knowledge of Hinduism and your knowledge of pantheism. You’ve been espousing a version of pantheism on this blog for a good while now, I would think you would recognize it. As for Hinduism, it is directly responsible for the creation of the caste system. My friend who lived there had a lower caste maid, and his other Hindu friends wouldn’t even come to his home when they found out.
        I urge you to please stop giving opinions and provide evidence if you disagree.

        • rosross says:

          You may well challenge my knowledge of Hinduism but I lived in India for more than four years and read widely on that country including a study of Hinduism and Buddhism. As to Pantheism, it is a complex subject and not one I feel you are the least interested in discussing in depth.
          Hinduism did not so much create the caste system as incorporate it. But it remains one of the more iniquitous aspects of Hinduism. However, it really is little different to the English class system as practised by Christians for centuries, nor the Russian serf system, but that is too big a subject to tackle here.
          As to your friend’s story, it does not make sense. Indians traditionally have lower-caste maids and servants, that is the whole point of it. What the orthodox Hindus do demand is someone of the same caste to cook the food because they will not eat food touched by a lower caste. This makes socialising difficult as you may imagine.
          The fact is that only untouchables, the lowest caste will touch the toilet so you must have a servant who will clean the toilet. For expats living in India the choice where possible was Christian servants because they would clean everything.
          I am guessing your friend is Christian because no Hindu would have a lower-caste cook and if his Hindu friends would not go to his house (eat at his house I imagine – no-one cares about servants who clean) then if he had been Hindu he could not eat the food either.

      • humblesmith says:

        If you’ll note, the OP had indeed counted this event, so it was balanced…..balanced with the actual numbers, not opinion: As of day 20 of Ramadan, the death count was Muslims 794, Racists 6, Other Religions 0.

  3. Ryan says:

    Out of my friends who come from Muslim backgrounds, given their generosity and kindness, I believe not one of them would support any of the things done “in the name of Allah” that are listed above.

    In the same way that we don’t agree with many of the things “done in the name of Jesus”. There are people in many walks of life that do terrible things. Some Christians might say that those people who do horrible things in the name of Christ aren’t true Christians. A friend of mine who reads and hears about terrible things happening back in Somalia by the local al-Shabaab (or “the youth movement”) militia would say that the people who recruit these youth are decievers. He would say they young people are recruited and brainwashed, and that al-Shabaab does not represent true Islam.

    Where specifically does Islam teach that butchering other people is godly? I know there are suras in the Quran that refer to conflict, but I also hear many Christians (including myself) talk about the importance of context when reading The Bible. shouldn’t we apply the same emphasis on context to the Quaranic texts? We shouldn’t have double standards. Taking suras in isolation, I could see how. And I’m not denying what is or what isin’t in the Quran, after all I haven’t read all of it.

    But have you? Isin’t that what we as Christians say to those who take isolated verses out of The Bible and then point at them as if to say “look how could a loving God do/teach such a thing?”. And don’t we reply, “you have to read this in context, what was written before this verse?” “what was written after?”

    and I people are quite right to point this out about how the controversial verses in the Bible need to be read in context.

    So given all this, the question still stands, Where specifically does Islam teach that butchering other people is godly? and to expand on this: what about context?

  4. humblesmith says:

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

    It’s amazing to me that murdering children is somehow excused, but pointing out that people murder children is argued about and explained away, and called hatred.

  5. Ryan says:

    You said: “mudering children is somehow excused”

    Here are some verses I’m sure you’ve seen before:

    1 Samuel 15:2-3
    King James Version (KJV)

    Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

    _____________________________________________________________

    Are these verses out of context?

    _____________________________________________________________

    this is what the Bible says about the people who were destroyed:

    “It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Deuteronomy 9:5)

    Okay, how “wicked” could those people have been? How about killing their own sons and daughters by burning them in sacrifices to their gods:

    “You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:31)

    The wickedness of these people is confirmed in other verses of the Bible.3 So we see that these people are not quite as innocent as the atheists would like you to believe. The fact that these people practiced child sacrifice is also confirmed in the secular writings of the Greeks.

    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/killergod.html

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    Again, You said: It’s amazing to me that murdering children is somehow excused”.

    Well it seems that the Old Testament excuses killing children.

    Although I could be wrong, but it seems that way.

    Now either

    (1) I’m misunderstanding these verses OR
    (2) These verses are different from the Original Bible Text OR
    (3) These verses are not inspired OR
    (4) Children were ordered to be killed by God

    ___________________________________________________

    Are we as critical of the You said: “mudering children is somehow excused”

    Here are some verses I’m sure you’ve seen before:

    1 Samuel 15:2-3
    King James Version (KJV)

    Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

    _____________________________________________________________

    Are these verses out of context?

    _____________________________________________________________

    this is what the Bible says about the people who were destroyed:

    “It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Deuteronomy 9:5)

    Okay, how “wicked” could those people have been? How about killing their own sons and daughters by burning them in sacrifices to their gods:

    “You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:31)

    The wickedness of these people is confirmed in other verses of the Bible.3 So we see that these people are not quite as innocent as the atheists would like you to believe. The fact that these people practiced child sacrifice is also confirmed in the secular writings of the Greeks.

    _________________________________________________

    Again, You said: It’s amazing to me that murdering children is somehow excused”.

    Well it seems that the Old Testament excuses killing children.

    Although I could be wrong, but it seems that way.

    Now either

    (1) I’m misunderstanding these verses OR
    (2) These verses are different from the Original Bible Text OR
    (3) These verses are not inspired OR
    (4) God ordered children to be killed OR
    (5) The Israelites ordered children to be killed

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    Are we as critical of the Qur’an as we are of the Bible? If not, why?

    • humblesmith says:

      Again, and once again (I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve already answered this….), Yes, God commands children to be killed. An yes, we are as critical of the Bible as we are of the Quran, for the reasons I’ve already listed. Namely, God gave life, and as perfect righteous judge, can take it back again, 2) God probably warned them and they didn’t listen, 3) Israel didn’t obey completely, and did what everyone today wanted them to do, which was work with the pagans to try to get along. 3)This “get along” tactic didn’t work, and Israel began sacrificing to Molek also, which is what God was trying to stop. If Israel would have obeyed, it would have properly judged evil and prevented it from recurring. 5) it was limited to Israel and the peoples of Canaan, while the Quran is not, 6) Israel is indeed violating their treaties today by building housing in Palestine, and both Jews and Christians have killed people in the past. But there is not a systematic, ongoing, focused attempt in Judaism or Christianity to murder non-believers, like there has always been in Islam. 7) the land actually belonged to Israel, and was taken by the Canaanites, so Israel went to war to get it back; 8) if God had not condemned Canaan to death, he would have been guilty of not punishing evil, 9) even if the Bible and Quran are equally bad, it does not excuse the massive murder campaign organized by Muslims, which does not exist in Christianity, and 10) you’ve not once answered my comments about all these responses. I’ll let this repetition go a bit longer, then shut it all off, as is my standard comment policy.

      • Ryan says:

        First I want to apologise, regarding the post where I referred to 1 Samuel 15:2-3. In this post I also included some information that was presented on an apolegetics website: http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/killergod.html
         
        Without checking this properly I later realised that some of the information I included form this website actually made some off hand statements that do not reflect my own views. Specifically when the website concluded that: “So we see that these people are not quite as innocent as the atheists would like you to believe”. I want to clarify that I would not have written that. This statement was only included because I didn’t take the time to look over the information sufficiently. This is a lesson for me. Your right, I need to do my own research. This is a very generalised statement that is unfair to atheists because it doesn’t properly represent them as individual people. This is an unfair generalisation. There are many atheists who don’t have ulterior motives in their position, actually they are not trying to make people believe anything. Furthermore, there are many athiests who are truly considerate and caring, and fantastic people, yet they don’t have any intension convince other people to not believe. It’s not right to simply colour an entire position with the same brush.

        If I want to consider something throughly I shouldn’t lean on other peoples websites for my primary research. If I do this I might misrepresent myself withour realising (Which I did in my last post). Instead, I should do the ground work. Hopefully I don’t make this mistake again.

        If I make any more posts, I won’t just ask questions, but I will also try to provide some of my own research. Thanks :)

      • rosross says:

        No wonder most people in the world find such a God not only mindlessly cruel but ridiculous.
        And you are absolutely wrong about there being an ongoing attempt in Islam to murder non-believers. I thought you specialised in the facts and history? Perhaps only of a biblical and christian nature. The fact is that the Moslems were far more enlightened than the Christians and when they invaded and occupied and colonised, unlike the Christians who generally put everyone to the sword, the Moslems not only let others live, they allowed them to practise their religions in safety. More to the point, Islam allowed Christians and Jews to rise to great heights politically, not to mention artistically and scientifically because they were civilized enough (long before the barbaric Christians) to see that killing someone because of his or her belief was not only unnecessary, it was unwise.
        I still find it astonishing that intelligent people can continue to believe in a primitive concept of God some 2,000 years old where the God sounds more like an antiquated and barbaric dictator and tyrant rather than anyone who was capable of creating this world and everything in it, let alone capable of something called Love!
        And shutting it down is a sign that you know your position cannot be defended. That at least is something of an admittance.

  6. Ryan says:

    Again, You said: It’s amazing to me that murdering children is somehow excused”.

    Well it seems that the Old Testament excuses killing children.

    Although I could be wrong, but it seems that way.

    Now either

    (1) I’m misunderstanding these verses OR
    (2) These verses are different from the Original Bible Text OR
    (3) These verses are not inspired OR
    (4) God ordered children to be killed OR
    (5) The Israelites ordered children to be killed

    Are we as critical of the Qur’an as we are of the Bible? If not, why?

  7. Ryan says:

    However, even if a community did practice child sacrifice, does this make it justifiable to kill children? So many Christians are against abortion, yet the Old Testament talks about ordering the killing of children, and some Christians seem to try and defend this as justifiable. Am I misunderstanding this?

    • Ryan says:

      Is the only difference is that God ordered killings, so therefore it is ok? am I misunderstanding this?

    • rosross says:

      You are not misunderstanding Ryan. The problem is that sayings which are 2,000 years old, presented, supposedly, as something God said, are, quite naturally, a reflection of the attitudes and minds of men at the time. The problem is interpreting them literally. One could argue the same in terms of the demonising of Islam by cherry-picking certain quotes there.

      • humblesmith says:

        We’ll end this one here. I’ve given ample opportunity for comment, broadening my usual standards for comments and allowing a lot of links and blunt statements by me and others. So far, the post stands, with the comments being unsupported opinions with no evidence or citations. I confess my comments got a bit emotional with this one, seeing that photo of that guy who was machine gunned in church by murdering killers, while people argue about which text was worse, while they hadn’t read either. I apologize if I’ve been insulting.

  8. Ryan says:

    I’ve looked at the link, and it seems like they are cherrypicking verses. I know there are suras in the Qur’an that speak of peace, love and care. It also talks about respecting “people of the book” which is a title given to both Christians and Jews.

    why didn’t they refer to any of those verses when comparing faiths? if you put a acceptable taching against a controversial teaching the contrast is quite clear. However if you put two controversial teachings in comparison, then that would be less bias.

    • rosross says:

      Absolutely and if anyone displays hypocrisy in a bid to defame others they can hardly call them to account if they do the same with their religion. Integrity, balance and accuracy are crucial at all times.

  9. Ryan says:

    and im not defending the Qur’an because I believe it to be true. I just concerned double standards might sometimes be at play when certain websites attempt to poke holes in Islam, yet will be selective and careful to present scripture as a contrast. It shouldn;t have to be selective. either the Bible stands on its own merits or it doesn’t.

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    LISTEN UP ALL YOU ATHIEST – Many of you see counter-jihad (informing the public about the dangers of Islam) as some right wing Christian thing. But you could never be more wrong. I challenge you to listen to this very informative, and correct 20 minute assessment of Islam from a very bright atheist kid that goes by the YT names CharlieMillesManson and Styxhexenhammer666,,,, and has done videos on Christianity. lIke one entitled The Truth About God and Satan,, where he postulates that Satan is the good guy and god is the bad guy,, and he says he has absolute proof that god does not exist,, in one of his videos.

    I know you guys gotta love a guy like that. Shouldn’t that give the guy some clout, at least in being non-biased –kinda) in your eyes? But I dare you to listen to his very studied and articulate expose on Islam based on his study and the 15 links of mostly statistics below. And then scan the links and cross check the sources for yourself. I dare you,, I bet you can’t do it and come back and make any rational and logical arguments refuting anything he says.

    BTW,, almost all major atheist have spoke out against Islam and recognize it is on a different threat level than other religions. Don’t you be afraid and let your biases determine your position on Islam. GO AHEAD. I DARE YA!!!

    1/3 of British Muslims consider Jews a legitimate target for jihad.

    http://iris.org.il/blog/archives/1040-Third-of-British-Muslims-View-UK-Jews-a

    9/10 middle eastern girls sexually abused.

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0553103016

    http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Sex/+Doc-Sex-Pedophilia&

    Most Muslims don’t believe Arabs were responsible for 9/11

    http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2066/muslims

    (note also most muslims consider religion before nationality.)

    Muslims 5% of Danish population, get 40% of welfare.

    http://www.laqueur.net/print.php?r=2&rr=2&id=31

    Half of Muslim men and three quarters of Muslim women are unemployed in the UK.

    http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8

    In UK Sharia law classes use textbooks which tell children that the penalty for gay sex is execution, that “Zionists” are plotting to take over the world for the Jews and the correct way to cut off the hands and feet of convicted thieves.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/11/22/islamic-schools-teaching-pupils-that-gay

    Almost 80 percent (3 out of every 4) U.S. mosques preach anti-West extremism.

    http://www.wnd.com/2008/02/57141/ (note that the site is Christian)

    Most Muslims believe in enforcing death penalty for apostasy, as well as amputation and whipping.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/pew-poll-most-muslims-favor-law-to-allow-isla

    Muslims represent about 1% of the American population, yet constitute more than 80% of terror convictions.

    http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.justice.gov/cjs/docs/terroris

    Human rights activists say hundreds of women behind bars are victims of domestic violence, in Afghanistan.

    http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-156

    Muslim authors cook data to make more Muslims seem moderate (even those who support shariah law and support suicide bombings.)

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/066chpzg.as

    Nearly 3,000 Islamic honor killings or assaults in the UK last year.

    http://www.stophonourkillings.com/?q=node/8291

    Five of the nations ranked least peaceful in the world by the Global Peace Index are Islamic countries.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0726/p09s01-coop.html

    According to Google, islamic nations are top for searching for sexual content, especially bestiality.

    http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp

    • rosross says:

      Oh dear, what a wonderful collection of propaganda. I wonder if Americans realise how much they live in a soup of lies and propaganda, so much so, that the rest of the world looks on and shakes their ‘head.’ However, beyond being sad, this is also dangerous given the way the US wields its military power around the world. One can only hope that the improved communications via the internet will allow Americans to realise how brainwashed they are about the realities of life in general and in regard to Islam in particular.
      I would not bother but one could compile a list twice as long of atrocities committed in the name of Christianity, and lists equally as long of atrocities committed in the names of Hinduism and Judaism, and a list, four times as long of atrocities committed by the US in the past fifty years.

  11. humblesmith says:

    This is just absolutely amazing. The moral position you are taking leaves me flabbergasted.
    First, even if the passages in the Bible and the Quran were equally bad and/or misunderstood (which I don’t think they are, and have already explained why), then we have a situation where the people of Israel did not follow through and are not following through with it today, while there are Muslims who are killing on a widespread basis today. You are essentially saying ‘I think the passages are equally bad, so the Christians are at fault” and missing the point that people are being murdered daily. This leaves me amazed, to the point I will be a bit more direct here.
    Second, the ROP website did not “cherry pick” verses. They listed about 60 passages and went into the context of each, then contrasted them with OT verses. It is not reasonable to just say ‘it seems to me they might be’ doing something, and dismiss the arguments out of hand. If you think the passages are cherry picked, the burden of proof is on you to show otherwise. You have shown nothing, and dismissing someone else’s research without proof is not reasonable. I thought we were supposed to be reasonable here?
    Third, as the various links and posts have already shown, the OT Bible passages were very specific, saying ISRAEL was to destroy the people of CANAAN at a specific time in history. That is what the text says, reading something else into it is violating what the text says. By contrast, the Quran repeatedly uses broad terms such as “infidels” and gives no limit on time and place. Reading something into it or trying to make these passages seem similar either means you’ve not read them or do not want to know the truth, for they are not at all similar.
    Fourth, as I’ve already shown, the Bible has passages where they did exactly what you wanted them to do….i.e., not kill these people, but try to go and influence them for good. (see Solomon’s actions in 1 Kings 11, cf. 2 Kings 23). So the Bible does what you asked, and it resulted in more children being burned on the idol Molech. The only way to eliminate this evil is to cut it off entirely, which is what God told them to do, and they did not do it, as the end of Joshua shows. Again, to continue down this line of argument shows that you haven’t read the text and aren’t really looking for answers.
    Fourth, as I’ve shown, we have reasonable evidence to conclude that God did indeed send prophets to Canaan to tell them to stop sacrificing their children, but they refused. Without cutting off the entire practice, there is always the chance the next generation would begin it again, which is exactly what happened with Solomon. Yet again, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
    Fifth, God gave life, and as such, has the right to do with it as He pleases. He will always do good in the end.
    Sixth, all I have seen on the comments of this post are questions and crticisms. If you do not have a logical argument or evidence to present, you are not making any progress. I have seen nothing of the sort so far. To argue over text passages that you haven’t read and don’t understand and won’t present any evidence to the contrary, especially in the face of egregious modern day slaughter, shows where your motivations are. I can only conclude that you approach these issues with a preconceived bias and won’t spend the time to do the reading and studying yourself, but find it easier to take surface-level potshots at something you won’t spend the time to learn the truth. In the end, you haven’t shown that you really want to know the truth.

    Forgive me for being more blunt than usual, but this is especially morally egregious, and is life and death for many people today. Look at the numbers in the OP…..is this really what you want to ignore and explain away by contrasting with bible passages you haven’t read?

    • rosross says:

      Surely humblesmith, an educated, intelligent person in the modern age would look for ways to draw all religions together, not tear them apart and demonise as other? There are millions of Muslims around the world who live peacefully and who reject the extremists just as there are millions of Christians around the world, who live peacefully and who reject extremists. Ditto for Jews and Hindus and any others.
      And you also overlook the fact that at this point in history it is Christians and Jews who subjugate, oppress, terrorise and murder Moslems en masse with their occupations and colonisations which just might encourage extremism in Islam.
      It is so easy to ‘pick the worst’ done in any religion as you attempt to do here with Islam and it just seems to run counter to who and what you claim to be; ‘humble’ and a believer in and follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
      What I am curious about is just what was or is the goal of your post in the first place? Do you see this as spreading love, compassion, understanding, tolerance – the Christian values which Christians are so quick to espouse as they preach hatred and intolerance – or do you seek to turn people against Islam in general and Moslems in particular? If that is the case it runs counter to everything Jesus Christ said and tried to teach.
      And do you apply this ‘judging’ to religions other than Islam. I mean, do you also roundly condemn the human rights abuses and war crimes committed by Judaism in the name of Israel against the Palestinians? Do you support the atrocities carried out by Israel in the name of Judaism, in its bid to maintain occupation and colonisation of Palestine? Surely if you condemn Islam for killing children then you condemn Judaism for doing the same! And not only killing them, but imprisoning children without charge and subjecting them to torture?
      You would certainly have more foundation for your attack on Islam if you spread the judgement around.

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